• Digital_man@lemmy.one
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    2 years ago

    Simple, Palestinians are brown and have less resources that America wants/needs.

    I’m with both Palestinians and Ukrainians.

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    2 years ago

    The Israeli-Palestinian conflict is much more nuanced. Both countries’ current heads of state are kinda like “all this land is my country’s, the other country should not exist.” It’s unclear who is right.

    The Russo-Ukranian conflict is clear. One leader is claiming the land of the other, the other just want it back. Ukraine’s government is not claiming half of Russia.

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      2 years ago

      “Unclear who is right”

      No it’s pretty clear, out with the colonizer government. How is this a question?

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      2 years ago

      It isn’t that nuanced. The colonized, subjugated population is rising up rather than laying down to continue getting slaughtered.

      Liberate Palestine.

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      2 years ago

      Edit: removed implied support for Hamas. Both militaries should burn. Hope for a quick end to the conflict for the sake of the civilians affected.

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        2 years ago

        At the end of the day who is Isreal and who Palestine. If no one who was alive when Palestine was around can anyone rightfully claim it the land belongs to “Palestine”. It’s like the ship Theseus or something. Maybe I’m just dumb as fuck.

        Just make the fuck up and work together instead of being greedy bigots.

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          2 years ago

          can anyone rightfully claim it the land belongs to “Palestine”

          You should tell that to Israel, which is expelling Palestinians from this land every week for decades. It is not the Palestinians who are claiming the land exclusively to themselves and expelling others from it. It is Israel doing that. I find it crazy that you somehow argue this as if Palestine is doing that.

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            2 years ago

            Palestinians lost the wars. Multiple wars. At this point there really isn’t a point in contesting against Israel when they can integrate with Israel peacefully instead.

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              Israel is not offering “peaceful integration”. Have a look at Palestinians who already live outside of Gaza, in the rest of occupied Palestine. The only choices are leave, suffer or resist.

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                2 years ago

                Palestinians don’t offer peaceful integration either, since they like to resist so much as a group that Israelis don’t know who they can trust.

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                  Your sentence doesn’t make sense. Moreover, the Palestinian stance of most groups has been integration and living together peacefully and happily. “Resisting” their expulsion and the murder against them does not contradict that.

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    2 years ago

    idk, from an american perspective, pretty sure the americans that support Ukraine also support Palestine, whereas the americans that support Russia also support Israel.

    mostly certain.

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    Ukraine is simply more important to the countries bordering russia, the EU and it’s allies

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      2 years ago

      Ukraine is a sovereign nation that got attacked by another country.

      Palestine just carried out a horrible attack on Israel. Plus the history of Israel and Palestine is totally different. It’s just apples and oranges. I’m not claiming in any way Israel is right here, but Hamas is definitely scum of the Earth.

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        Let me introduce you to the conflict. Hamas’ behavior is a natural reaction to what israel has been doing for decades and will continue to happen. Both groups are insane fundamentalists. The only difference between them is one has the backing of the superpower and its media apparatus.

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    Cant they just give the whole land to the Arabs, declare Jerusalem as a religious state (like Vatican City) and create a new Capital for the new Palestine Land?

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      This is called the two state solution, and it’d be nice. It’s been tried and it failed, and that’s why Israel and Palestine are fighting now. It seems like the best solution but so far Israel has never agreed to it.

  • Gabu@lemmy.world
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    2 years ago

    Hurr durr, now that a palestinian terrorist group is attacking is the best moment to be vocal about palestinian freedom

    And you people wonder why you get downvoted?

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        1 year ago

        Not at all. That was still the wrong moment to do it. NOW (and for the past few months, since Israel began its full-blown open genocide) is the right time.

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          Hey thanks for the response.

          Has your opinion of Isreal changed because of the last few months? If so has that changed how you view their actions in the past against the Palestinian people?

          If the comparison of Russia in Ukraine to Isreal in Palestine was only made legitimate in the past few months, then how do you view the Nakba?

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            Has your opinion of Isreal changed because of the last few months?

            It changed insofar as going from “they’re a pretty horrible fascist society” to “they’re straight up Nazis”.

            If so has that changed how you view their actions in the past against the Palestinian people?

            Not really.

            If the comparison of Russia in Ukraine to Isreal in Palestine was only made legitimate in the past few months […]

            You’re commiting a fallacy, I believe and hope unintentionally. Israel has always been the aggressor, I’ve never contradicted that. However, defending a population associated with a vile terrorist group at a time said group has just attacked is simply bad politics - you’ll not get many allies and now your detractors have a concrete event to point towards when dismissing your position. At present, Israel has effectively admitted to wanting a genocide and Hamas has waved the white flag multiple times, so it’s the perfect moment, politically, to defend the Palestine.

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      You’re telling on yourself. You genuinely don’t give a shit about the Palestinian struggle. You just want them to sit down and take their genocide.

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        Perhaps they could sit down when it comes to killing innocent civvies and stick to military targets. I have always been outspoken in Palestine’s favor but lines were crossed and nobody should support it.