The ratings would not be through the roof. Although they might be richt people, they are still people. Naturally people are social creatures who don’t like to see other humans suffer greatly.
Yes, people are cruel, but seeing people dieing and suffering is not something most people will willingly seek out unless they are already depressed or traumatized.
I certainly won’t be watching. Now just taking their money, leaving them enough to still live a life and then improving the world, I would be watching that.
But I really do not understand why people hate rich people so much. Yes, Bozos is an asshole for exploiting employees and treating them really bad, but that is about his actions and everything that flows from that. His money alone would not make me hate him.
those people are actively destroying the very planet we live on, and causing untold human suffering in the process so they can own more yatchs that they can conceivably enjoy.
every child that dies of hunger, every sick man who dies due to unaffordable healthcare, every person who worked themselves to an early grave for them to live in misery, all so those ghouls can suck more and more.
then being put in a molten lead tub is barely a tiny fraction of the cumulative amount of suffering they have caused.
The argument is not how one gruesome, cruel, sociopathic behavior outweighs the other, but being opposed to extremely anti-social behavior in general. Nobody wins the cruelty olympics.
Frankly, even the idea of “it is ethical, enjoyable, or just tolerable to cruelly hurt X in any way, because they are objectively worse than whatever I can think of” should be fundamentally repulsive to anyone, more so when attempting to take any moral high ground.
It’s too close for (my) comfort to normalizing suffering as somehow deserved by anyone, which is how “the other side” likes to argue how exploitation is totally fine. “Everyone else would do it, too, I’m just faster or better at it than them.” - “If they weren’t subhuman, worthless losers, they could hold a job in my orphan blending factory, and just not be homeless or pay for medication”. These are examples of an anti-social mindset. Honestly wishing, not just out of righteous, powerless anger, another conscious being cruel harm for any reason is a very slippery slope towards that mindset. I try to fight this urge.
I follow the argument insofar that “they” caused unfathomable suffering in multitudes. I would really prefer if the reaction to this wouldn’t be the prevalent “I want to see them hurt in (un)kind, because they deserve it”, but rather “how can such people be effectively discouraged from ever wanting to become a scourge to society”, while still accepting that universal human rights are still universal.
Of course this is much more complicated than “just take the money, and shove it elsewhere”, and quite possibly not even achievable within the time we have left, and coming from societies as they currently are. Without that little quantum of optimism, hope, and belief in a fundamentally sociable human nature, though, I don’t see much in our future than eventual, total destruction, one way or the other.
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Yeah, molten lead isn’t even close to the cruelty inflicted by those doused with it. But why are we one-upping each other in cruelty, again? What’s the point?
There comes a point where amassing wealth is to the detriment of those around you. Name someone who has a billion dollars and I will tell you why I think they are selfish and a drag on society.
Agreed. I wouldn’t want any of them killed. I’d be really entertained by a max-income type of idea where they have to make it without all of the luxuries they are used to. And especially for the people who never had to work (besides bossing others around) it would be so fun to see them in some average job, or even walking into a supermarket finding out what food costs.
The ratings would not be through the roof. Although they might be richt people, they are still people. Naturally people are social creatures who don’t like to see other humans suffer greatly.
Yes, people are cruel, but seeing people dieing and suffering is not something most people will willingly seek out unless they are already depressed or traumatized.
I certainly won’t be watching. Now just taking their money, leaving them enough to still live a life and then improving the world, I would be watching that.
But I really do not understand why people hate rich people so much. Yes, Bozos is an asshole for exploiting employees and treating them really bad, but that is about his actions and everything that flows from that. His money alone would not make me hate him.
those people are actively destroying the very planet we live on, and causing untold human suffering in the process so they can own more yatchs that they can conceivably enjoy.
every child that dies of hunger, every sick man who dies due to unaffordable healthcare, every person who worked themselves to an early grave for them to live in misery, all so those ghouls can suck more and more.
then being put in a molten lead tub is barely a tiny fraction of the cumulative amount of suffering they have caused.
The argument is not how one gruesome, cruel, sociopathic behavior outweighs the other, but being opposed to extremely anti-social behavior in general. Nobody wins the cruelty olympics.
Frankly, even the idea of “it is ethical, enjoyable, or just tolerable to cruelly hurt X in any way, because they are objectively worse than whatever I can think of” should be fundamentally repulsive to anyone, more so when attempting to take any moral high ground.
It’s too close for (my) comfort to normalizing suffering as somehow deserved by anyone, which is how “the other side” likes to argue how exploitation is totally fine. “Everyone else would do it, too, I’m just faster or better at it than them.” - “If they weren’t subhuman, worthless losers, they could hold a job in my orphan blending factory, and just not be homeless or pay for medication”. These are examples of an anti-social mindset. Honestly wishing, not just out of righteous, powerless anger, another conscious being cruel harm for any reason is a very slippery slope towards that mindset. I try to fight this urge.
I follow the argument insofar that “they” caused unfathomable suffering in multitudes. I would really prefer if the reaction to this wouldn’t be the prevalent “I want to see them hurt in (un)kind, because they deserve it”, but rather “how can such people be effectively discouraged from ever wanting to become a scourge to society”, while still accepting that universal human rights are still universal.
Of course this is much more complicated than “just take the money, and shove it elsewhere”, and quite possibly not even achievable within the time we have left, and coming from societies as they currently are. Without that little quantum of optimism, hope, and belief in a fundamentally sociable human nature, though, I don’t see much in our future than eventual, total destruction, one way or the other.
TL;DR: Yeah, molten lead isn’t even close to the cruelty inflicted by those doused with it. But why are we one-upping each other in cruelty, again? What’s the point?
the same way that it’s unethical to chop people’s body parts, but it is if said body part of a tumour.
it’s best just to end the system that creates them. however, they are fighting tooth and nail to maintain it.
There comes a point where amassing wealth is to the detriment of those around you. Name someone who has a billion dollars and I will tell you why I think they are selfish and a drag on society.
Agreed. I wouldn’t want any of them killed. I’d be really entertained by a max-income type of idea where they have to make it without all of the luxuries they are used to. And especially for the people who never had to work (besides bossing others around) it would be so fun to see them in some average job, or even walking into a supermarket finding out what food costs.