• KimBongUn420@lemmy.ml
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    If you’re implying that there is no substantial amount of censorship in the west you’re kidding yourself. e.g. RT/TASS, Genocide in Palestine, Leftists/Communist thought, Removing TikTok is in the talks, etc. come to mind. Not like only one side is locking off their internet.

    Also, not wanting western Nazi (social) media platforms is just self defense.

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      I’m saying the censorship is not even close to the same degree. Communists and leftists are not censored. If they were, I wouldn’t encounter them in main stream social medias.

      Removing tic tok is not censorship lmfao.

      Also, not wanting western Nazi (social) media platforms is just self defense.

      If it was only banning the platforms, I would agree.

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        Communists and leftists are not censored

        As a lib it definitely seems that way. There may be even too much amirte?

        Removing tic tok is not censorship lmfao.

        Id argue trying to remove a main stream platform with a flatter algorithm that allows for counter hegemonic content to go viral is a form of censorship, but in that case China blocking Western social Media isn’t either

        If it was only banning the platforms, I would agree.

        I like how you skipped the censoring of TASS/RT

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      Yes, there is censorship. But the information is there if you search for it. The fact that you’re typing the words “genocide in Palestine” and I am reading those words pretty clearly demonstrates that the level of censorship in the west is no where near the level of censorship in China. If the CCPs position is “Israel has a right to defend itself” you would never even know there’s a conflict in Gaza.

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        But the information is there if you search for it.

        Goes for China too if you use a VPN

        The fact that you’re typing the words “genocide in Palestine” and I am reading those words pretty clearly

        I guess you never heard of shadow banning before. That never happens in the west right?

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          Most Chinese don’t have access to a VPN. Do you need a VPN to access that information? The fact that there is an extra step to access the information means that china is more censored by default. There’s also the fact that at certain times of year all consumer VPNs are blocked (June 4th is one of those dates, oddly enough)

          Yes, I’ve heard of shadow banning. The censorship in China is still worse. I’m not saying censorship doesn’t happen in the west. I am saying it is much more widespread, oppressive, and complete in China. No amount of you crying is going to change that fact.

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            Being subject of western imperialism tends to do that. The US uses various think thanks and it’s media landscape to produce narratives with the intend to destabilize the countries like e.g. China. Also any state goes into censorship when it’s hegemony is threatened. Also chinese people on average seem way more informed about current events than the average European or American

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              Chinese people seem way more informed about current events? 🤣🤣🤣😂🤣😂. That’s gonna be a no from me dog. Clearly you’ve never talked to the average Chinese person. There are vast swathes of current events and information they’ve never even heard about. They’re well informed about the topics that make it past the censors, for sure. My god you’re just as misinformed as everyone else. The only difference is your misinformation is “china good” misinformation. Which is sad, there are a lot of things to point at in china that are legitimate “China good”. Like fast, cheap/free and effective healthcare. The best in the world high speed rail. The closest to a meritocratic education system I’ve seen or heard of. Virtually zero homelessness. But when it comes to censorship, nah, they’re wayyyyy worse. Yeah, the west can be better than china then some things. It’s okay buddy, you can be objective you know

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                Cope. I guess you had a different experience when you were there. I got asked about NATO, Russia/Ukraine, Iran/Israel, US Tariffs and saw it analyzed in CCTV also when revisiting earlier this year. CGTNs quality of analysis is way higher and objective than other (state) media.

                What are topics that didn’t make it past the censors in your opinion?

                I’m not questioning that censorship is happening, it’s just happening differently than in western societies. Classifying it as “way worse” is just your subjective experience