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Spectre@lemmy.ml to Memes@lemmy.ml · 2 months ago

Schrödinger’s China

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Spectre@lemmy.ml to Memes@lemmy.ml · 2 months ago
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  • IninewCrow@lemmy.ca
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    2 months ago

    An evil authoritarian regime that is committing human rights abuses and does not follow democratic norms … but we’ll do billions of dollars worth of trade with them and base a lot of our industries around trading with them. But they’re still evil.

    • SippyCup@feddit.nl
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      2 months ago

      Are you talking about China or the US?

      • IninewCrow@lemmy.ca
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        2 months ago

        yes

    • yucandu@lemmy.world
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      Yeah that tracks, same with Saudi Arabia and Israel.

      Being aware of America’s abuses of power is good. Being contrarian and acting like everything they’ve ever said about China is a lie is bad.

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  • ferret@sh.itjust.works
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    “Imminent collapse” is a fairly common theme among modern economies

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
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      a common theme song among capitalist economies

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    Love how the exact same thing is now being said about the US lmao (the collapse part at least), I LOVE the media machine

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  • untakenusername@sh.itjust.works
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    its communist, but they’ve got billionares

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      To get terminology out of the way, they are building towards Communism through Socialism, ie an economy where public ownership is the principle aspect of the economy. In other words, large firms and key industries are overwhelmingly publicly owned, so the Bourgeoisie doesn’t have power over the state.

      Now that terms are out of the way, you’re correct, China does have billionaires. Even though that number is decreasing in recent years while working class purchasing power and wages are rising, that isn’t enough of an answer as to why they still exist. Billionaires represent a contradiction the CPC must resolve. But how is the best way to go about that? What time scale? The CPC’s role is to gradually resolve contradictions within Socialism in favor of the Proletariat in any inter-class dispute. They have to erase the foundations for billionaires, not the billionaires themselves.

      I recommend checking out China Has Billionaires. The important thing to understand is that contradictions exist in all systems, and it is the process of working out these contradictions that provides room for advancement.

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        you know I’ve been ignoring pretty much everything you say after you said that NK is a good country

        • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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          Feel free to keep letting me ratio you then 👍

          Also, pretty sure you’re referring to me talking about the USSR, not the DPRK, so you can’t even get your talking points straight.

          • Anarcho-Bolshevik@lemmygrad.ml
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            USSR

            DPRK

            They’re the same picture.

            • ∞🏳️‍⚧️Edie [it/its, she/her, fae/faer, love/loves, null/void, des/pair, none/use name]@lemmy.ml
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              2 months ago

              Justice in Moscow

              meow-shining New book to epub

  • torrentialgrain@lemm.ee
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    These two aren’t necessarily mutually exclusive.

    • sus@programming.dev
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      What is mutually exclusive, though, is reality and China’s “imminent collapse” which has been looming just around the corner for the past 20 years

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        Idk people are saying the same things about the western markets as they have been for decades. Maybe a significant portion of people are just naturally drawn to crash prophets.

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          • torrentialgrain@lemm.ee
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            Then you are not engaging in economically interested circles.

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