They gave references, you ninny. It doesn’t matter if you have references if everyone is bringing a lot more of rhem in to it, which they have.

Again, obstinance should not be confused with being correct. That’s just being in denial… You are in denial.

Being “left of center” is a comment about the Overton Window. People are trying to express to you about how outside of the extremely slanted window, liberals are all conservative, which is wholly and demonstrably correct.

When you’re the only one trying to use rose colored glasses, it behooves you to understand that most others will have a different perspective.

No. We’re right. You’ve been given references. Just because you obstinantly ignore those references does not make you correct or smart.

Yea but neoliberals are not left. The fuck do you think US democrats are classic liberals? Also classic liberals are still capitalist supporting fuckwits, so the distinction is irrelevant when discussing the modern left.