Nah man not sticking around to be abused like that, buhbye

Just accepting you can’t reason with ideologues 👍

You are portraying Russia, a global superpower, as the unilateral victim. I am saying there is more nuance, especially concerning superpowers. I don’t support usurpation or invasion by anyone. You can’t suppose that ideologically and economically opposed nations won’t both editorialize (which seems here to be your concern, editorializing). Yet here we are.

Touché

I’m honestly surprised they’re still up

I’m not going to get into a citation contest with you, that would be a train to nowhere. My final point still stands.

Right, because the US told Yanukovych to brutalize his people, and also told the people to revolt and the supreme court to remove him from office, so he could flee to Russia. Not saying the West didn’t see this as an opportunity to strengthen economic ties, but it was not a bear and stick moment. Why do you insist that only the West is at fault? Culpability is shared

You’re speaking as if the US started it. They did not. Russia literally invaded Ukraine in the false pretense that they are under the control of a Nazi regime. There is no Nazi regime, barely even a functioning contingent, and certainly nothing out of proportion with the rest of the world’s far right representation. If anything, this “proxy war” serves two purposes: 1. To field test new technology and 2. To undercut Russian propaganda. It’s apparent to anyone paying attention that Russia is the aggressor, they’ve vastly oversold their own capability, and their propaganda machine is flailing.

I’m not saying there are no issues within the US that urgently need resolved, but let’s be honest with ourselves – authoritarianism is authoritarianism no matter their lat/long or cultural/economic history, at home and abroad.

Edit: got caught up in my own argument and forgot to mention the obvious third reason: to help the sovereign nation of Ukraine defend itself from invasion.

“non-empire”

Crimea and Ukraine might contest that