It can’t have been proven without participation. Congressional primaries haven’t seen more than 15% attendance in over 40 years. We’ve been allowing retirees from the Silent Generation and now Boomers to decide our candidates. Gen X and younger need to actively participate in primaries and attempt to take the party over before we can actually say we’ve proven anything.

100%. There are primaries all the time. The only difference with Zohran is we showed up.

That doesn’t matter at all. He won the primary with a grassroots campaign, so he doesn’t need their funding. Being in the blue/Working Families column will win the know-nothing vote in NYC.

The key is for us to seek out the progressive on the primary ballot and vote. We shouldn’t be rewarding the candidates that have the financial means to find us in our living rooms. Sign up for mailers if you forget to vote. Sign up for mail-in ballots if you have an irregular schedule.

That depends entirely on who we vote for in the primaries.

See: Zohran Mamdani for an example

Not a lib, and clearly they didn’t understand because their response was all about Russia and not about Stein.

You misunderstand. Our problem is our woefully uneducated population is inundated with misinformation on how our system works and propaganda to keep them too afraid to learn.

In case my metaphor was too elusive for you, I was referring to Jill Stein. She only shows up as a spoiler candidate every four years, never runs for any other government office, and has a long history of meetings and dinners with Putin.

Better off voting for the Russian boat that only comes out for a month every four years.

Of course. The problem you’re not willing to accept is there was no way to vote that would effectively stop the US from providing Israel with aid. You wasted your chance to stop fascism and minimize the horrors in Palestine so you could say you’re morally superior, and now the West Bank is being turned into a billionaire resort while the US descends into fascism. Great job. I’m sure the Palestinians appreciate your idealism at their expense.

Do you deflect responsibility with everything you do in life, or just when you engage people online?

That’s true. Everyone knows the Holocaust was the fault of the Communist Party for not being more compelling in 1932.

That’s absolutely correct. The worst possible fucking time to try and kill a party was when it was the only option other than a fascist dictatorship. Your argument could not be more tone deaf.

Do you think she would’ve upgraded the 5-ton bombs to 10-ton bombs, and provided bulldozers to turn the West Bank into a billionaire resort too?

Bruh, are you really that dense? The most electoral votes a third-party candidate has ever won in our 250-year history is 88. It was Teddy Roosevelt back in 1912.

2028 is your year though. I can feel it.🙄

I rank independent candidates first in NYC, because it actually works as a system to prevent spoilers. I’ve cast votes for independent and green candidates in local elections. I vote for the most progressive democratic candidates in congressional primaries. What I don’t do, is live in a delusional world where voting for a third-party presidential candidate amounts to anything more than abstaining.

When do they blame voters? I’ve never heard of that.

If you’re referring to me, you’re sadly mistaken. I only register as Democrat to vote in their primaries, but they are way too far from my values for me to consider myself one. I blame voters for not doing what smart people should be doing; manipulating their rigged system to gain the most influence rather than wasting your vote on the most ethical and impotent option.

Nor do I. I did give a shit about preventing the election of a fascist dictator. Apparently that was not as important to you.

If we’re speaking ideally, absolutely. All non-capitalists are forced to make concessions living in a capitalist nation. I’ve been left of the democrats since the 90s. I vote for the leftmost candidate that has a chance of winning the election. Unfortunately, that’s usually the Working Families Democrat.

It’s that type of flawless, disengaging thought that brought you the Trump administration. Twice. Maybe try something different to get the 90M eligible voters to show up?

Who said I support genocidal fascists? You’re the one who threw their vote out instead of stopping the election of the genocidal fascist. I voted for the genocidal liberal, because I understand the concept of the lesser of two evils, and know how to leverage what little say I have in this horribly corrupt and broken system.

A lot of good your moral superiority is doing for the Palestinians now, huh? Upgrading the 5-ton bombs to 10-tonners, with plans to pave over the West Bank for a billionaire resort.

You really think that would’ve happened under Harris? Get real.

Also, I don’t know what liberals you’re referring to. I’m a progressive.

Are you for real?

Trump repealed restrictions on Israeli settlements on Palestinian territory. Netanyahu was so grateful, he named a settlement after him in occupied Golan Heights. He also said Israel needs to “finish the job” and stop recording their atrocities because they’re “losing the PR war.”