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You’re the only one saying tragedy. The rest are praising it. One more just for “fun” “much ado about nothing”

At best, according to Chinese sources, it was 300 revolutionaries killed in response to a handful of lynched soldiers -> not praise worthy. That’s called overkill.

At worst, according to the Swiss ambassador that was there, it was 2600-ish people. Definitely not praiseworthy. That’s called a massacre.

Either way, not necessary. Ffs, the whole black lives matter which was a shit show and still there were 35-ish deaths. But yeah, it was necessary and praiseworthy. Give me a break. But it’s good to finally get an actual stance out of you and not just dodgy bs. But you say “PLA” instead of “the army”, so I’m not surprised.

Not gonna waste time on all of that because it would take way too much time but first one is quite easy:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-48489002

https://sh.itjust.works/pictrs/image/02073759-a8da-4b17-a90a-52001f60ecec.png

Both china’s defense minister and .ml’s admin seem to be disagreeing with you.

I’m not picking “fights”, lol. I haven’t replied to a .ml thread in months. And I’m not getting into that because I have before and almost none of you have budged an inch.

Not on Tiananmen Square(yeah, it didn’t happen in the actual square, doesn’t mean nothing happened),

not on the Uyghur situation(just because they’re not getting genocided like the gazans doesn’t mean “education camps” is a socially acceptable thing to put someone through),

not on the fact that the metrics that you’re using to compare don’t paint the full picture(such as the whole green energy thing when in reality they’re still one of the highest CO2 emitting countries per capita)

nor on fact that you keep pretending that state capitalism = socialism, which is not. Just because a place is better than the USA doesn’t mean that it’s a good place.

Socially, yeah… Even worse xD I agree, they have tons of work ahead of them. And on certain issues (such as LGBTQ), they’re not really progressing.

Okay, so I felt I needed to reply to that for some reason. But like I said, I’ve talked about these things before, with you included, and you’ve never budged, so I’m not getting back into it. So unless you need to reply for someone else, don’t bother replying to me cause I’m not gonna respond anymore.

Yeah, but that’s because the liberals that you’re talking about are only liberals in name only and they think that China is some autocratic hellscape. It’s easy to be closer to the truth than those people. Also you’re both wrong. As is almost always the case, the truth is somewhere in the middle. But we’re on .ml, so ofc people will disagree with me on that

Yeah, when I said “every” I didn’t mean that literally. But at least 3-4 of the bigger ones. Which is a lot. Especially since I’ve talked to actual Chinese people that live in China that are less delusional. But you do you.

Sir, this is lemmy.ml. They think every bad thing you’ve heard about china is a CIA psyop

Obviously their FM frequency would be 88, something, wouldn’t it?