• Sandouq_Dyatha@lemmy.ml
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      no, it’s a novel, it’s a work of fiction, not a piece of theory or history that you can quote, the ending and the world is entirely built by the writer, there’s no study it’s literally arguments made up by the writer based on no sources or research, anyone can write a dystopian story, I could write a dystopian story and quote it right now, it’s not argument, it’s stupid.

      You know, in my novel of people who quote novels ending up as nazis, you do resemble it a lot.

      /\ as valid as using a novel like 1984 or animal farm or whatever else as an argument

      • TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world
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        1984 and Brave New World are allegories based on real life social observations and events. So, yes, they are based on history. They are famous for a reason. It is just that you find it too close to comfort.

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        It’s not history, but it’s certainly theory. The study it’s based on is through observations of reality. When comparing something to one of these books, we’re testing their observations by comparing them to reality. Incidentally, it gets brought up a lot when an event, occurrence, or vector in society begins to resemble these books too closely.

        Your hyperbole of people quoting books all being nazis, on the other hand, is very easily disproven.

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          23 hours ago

          “this is giving boss baby vibes” except actually trying to make a point out of it

          Your hyperbole of people quoting books all being nazis

          Only the dumbest fucking people pull this shit and you are as fucking stupid as can be measured

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              23 hours ago

              Explain to me how you think I’m measuring, fuckwit. You have a judgement on a thing, you should be able to articulate what that thing is, right?

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                23 hours ago

                Badly; as someone who is culturally illiterate, lacks the skills of observation to make any determination (whether it be about myself or the subject of the world around us), is incapable of actually making any arguments, and so uses “colourful language” in a juvenile attempt to cover up their shortcomings.

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                  21 hours ago

                  The question I asked you was to explain the method by which I was making a judgement, which you presumed to know.

                  Can you answer it, stupid? Or are we going to get another paragraph about how you being snide is supposed to obscure the fact that you can’t maintain a coherent thought throughout one of your posts?

                  Mister five subordinate clauses per sentence.

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                    19 hours ago

                    Well, I rest my case. You are a… pointless individual. I do hope you have better luck in real life than on the internet.

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        Reminds me of the same reaction, but inverse for the right, when Squid Game first came out. The right keeps insisting that the show is about socialism, even though the creator explicitly mentioned it’s about capitalism.