Sadly this is only true on paper. Communist reality is not that good. This is probably why the meme targets the US audience who never experienced any of it.
What exactly makes this a cliche? Is it because a lot of people who experienced communism keep saying it? I wonder why that may be.
This isn’t a game. This is reporting personal experience. If you have a better experience with communism - lucky you. A lot of people here also had a positive one. Mostly these were communist party officials. Or people who secretly told the authorities about their neighbor’s “subversive” and “anti-regime” activities.
I’d like discourage anybody from trying to use communism as a system in their country. It may seem like a good idea, but it isn’t.
The majority of people who lived in the USSR think it was a better system than today. The vast majority of the PRC is happy with their system. Personal anecdotes does not trump actual facts and statistics.
So if I now go through the trouble to find a more recent statistic from the Czech Republic than the one you have from 2011 you will agree that the idea of reviving the communist regime isn’t popular here? Right?
If it’s something completely different, like the electoral results you’ve already shown, deleted, then shown again repeatedly, then no, I won’t agree. I do agree that it’s a comicated subject, especially because a small number of people have benefited massively due to the reintroduction of capitalism, and these people have control of the state and the media. However, even if you were able to prove that about the Czech Republic, there’s still all of the other states, plus the fact that the PRC is currently at over 90% approval rates.
Yes sorry about that. I replied on my own comment instead of yours, so I wanted to delete that reply, but deleted the parent comment instead by accident. So I had to repost it and then move the comment reply under your reply again. That was a mess :-)
Other states may have different experiences no doubt. But I will not comment on those because I don’t know the background there. I will leave that to residents of those states if you don’t mind. I am interested in your own real life experience with communism especially as you go through a lot of trouble to promote the system.
Why I am commenting here is that your statistics just happen to contain a set of data which I do know a lot about and it is used to “prove” a point it can’t prove.
The point it tries to prove is that “The majority of people that lived in the Soviet Union want it back.” (this is literary the title of your article). However any Czech statistic can’t be used to prove this as Czech Republic (or Czechoslovakia back then), was never a part of the USSR. The USSR just occupied our state with its army.
The article linked to that statistic and its poll is from 2011 and talks about the popularity of the past communist regime. I find the results not representative of reality and try to contest them by presenting election results.
52% of respondents say they are better off than in the past regime vs 24% who say the opposite.
There is an interesting breakdown of the statistics as well (differentiating respondents by sex, occupation, education etc) too if you are interested.
Based on the steady decline of the number of votes for the communist party in the past 35 years and the difference between your statistic from 2011 and the one above from 2022 I believe it is not incorrect to consider the following statement true:
“A majority of Czech citizens do not want the communist regime to return to their country.”
Oof even for your trash memes, this is awful… Damn… Aren’t you embarrassed? Awful… Just straight garbage…
.world, opinion discarded
Unfortunately, .worlders cannot see Lemmygrad.ml comments, comrade.
worlders are so incredibly fragile
For sure.
Why do you people always talk like the most insufferable losers imaginable?
Communism is good, actually.
Sadly this is only true on paper. Communist reality is not that good. This is probably why the meme targets the US audience who never experienced any of it.
No, again, the original comment:
I don’t know how many times you need to read these stats, but socislism is popular among those who live in it.
This is the most cliche criticism of communism there is.
Step up your game.
What exactly makes this a cliche? Is it because a lot of people who experienced communism keep saying it? I wonder why that may be.
This isn’t a game. This is reporting personal experience. If you have a better experience with communism - lucky you. A lot of people here also had a positive one. Mostly these were communist party officials. Or people who secretly told the authorities about their neighbor’s “subversive” and “anti-regime” activities.
I’d like discourage anybody from trying to use communism as a system in their country. It may seem like a good idea, but it isn’t.
No, again, the original comment:
The majority of people who lived in the USSR think it was a better system than today. The vast majority of the PRC is happy with their system. Personal anecdotes does not trump actual facts and statistics.
So if I now go through the trouble to find a more recent statistic from the Czech Republic than the one you have from 2011 you will agree that the idea of reviving the communist regime isn’t popular here? Right?
If it’s something completely different, like the electoral results you’ve already shown, deleted, then shown again repeatedly, then no, I won’t agree. I do agree that it’s a comicated subject, especially because a small number of people have benefited massively due to the reintroduction of capitalism, and these people have control of the state and the media. However, even if you were able to prove that about the Czech Republic, there’s still all of the other states, plus the fact that the PRC is currently at over 90% approval rates.
Yes sorry about that. I replied on my own comment instead of yours, so I wanted to delete that reply, but deleted the parent comment instead by accident. So I had to repost it and then move the comment reply under your reply again. That was a mess :-)
Other states may have different experiences no doubt. But I will not comment on those because I don’t know the background there. I will leave that to residents of those states if you don’t mind. I am interested in your own real life experience with communism especially as you go through a lot of trouble to promote the system.
Why I am commenting here is that your statistics just happen to contain a set of data which I do know a lot about and it is used to “prove” a point it can’t prove.
The point it tries to prove is that “The majority of people that lived in the Soviet Union want it back.” (this is literary the title of your article). However any Czech statistic can’t be used to prove this as Czech Republic (or Czechoslovakia back then), was never a part of the USSR. The USSR just occupied our state with its army.
The article linked to that statistic and its poll is from 2011 and talks about the popularity of the past communist regime. I find the results not representative of reality and try to contest them by presenting election results.
Additionally to that I now actually went through the trouble to find a more recent statistic on the subject. It is from 2022. You’ll need to auto-translate it: https://www.seznamzpravy.cz/clanek/domaci-zivot-v-cesku-mame-se-lepe-nez-pred-rokem-1989-polovina-lidi-o-tom-neni-presvedcena-219206
52% of respondents say they are better off than in the past regime vs 24% who say the opposite.
There is an interesting breakdown of the statistics as well (differentiating respondents by sex, occupation, education etc) too if you are interested.
Based on the steady decline of the number of votes for the communist party in the past 35 years and the difference between your statistic from 2011 and the one above from 2022 I believe it is not incorrect to consider the following statement true:
“A majority of Czech citizens do not want the communist regime to return to their country.”
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